BBI II:5 Origin of the “WORD” as the first “LIFE”
In lesson 5 we dig into the Greek text of John 1:3-4. This text was quoted quite differently by the early Christian writers from how it is translated in most of our modern Bibles. The punctuation in all of the critical printed editions of the Greek text of this passage is also ignored in most English versions. When we punctuate these verses as in the printed Greek texts and as quoted by the early Chrsitians, it says something about “Logos” (the Word) which is left out of most Bibles, that He had a beginning of His life and existence. It is not surprising that Trinitarian Bible translators choose to ignore the evidence.
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There are some Unitarians who see John 1:1-5 as a resurrection text. Here’s a comment from one of them:
I respect Tim, but these texts are not about preexistence. These texts are about resurrection life, which was in the first manifested and in the second witnessed.
“The life made apparent, and we have seen, and we witness and report to you the age-enduring life that was with the Father and was made apparent to us…”
This is clearly referring to resurrection life that was with the father and came to be in Jesus at his resurrection. John was a witness to resurrection life, the life-giving spirit. The life that originated or came to be in Jesus was resurrection life. Light is life and darkness is death. Life overcame death. Again resurrection. These are resurrection texts. It is needless to twist and distort to put all of this two persons idea together to push preexistence. What is the good news? The good news of the kingdom is that there is new resurrection life. The life that came to be in Jesus overcame death. When did this happen? Following the ministry and death of Jesus. Not before.
How would you respond to this argument?
First, “light” and “darkness” throughout the NT (especially in John’s writings) refer to revelation knowledge of God (light) vs. willful ignorance (darkness). This can be easily demonstrated from many passages: (John 1:5; John 3:19; John 8:12; John 12:35,46; 2 Cor. 4:6; 2 Cor. 6:14; Eph. 5:8; Eph. 6:12; 1 Thess. 5:4-5; 1 Pet. 2:9; 1 John 2:8-11), but especially only 2 verses later: 5 This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. “ (1 John 1:5-5).
Second, 1 John 1:1-3 was clearly meant to parallel John’s prologue to His Gospel. In that passage, “In the beginning” was a reference to Genesis 1:1. This is important because the clause “and the Word was with God“ (John 1:1) and “this One was in the beginning with God” (John 1:2) are parallel to “the Life, the age-during, which was with the Father, and was manifested to us” (1 Jn. 1:2 YLT). These “with God” statements (stative verb with the preposition “pros”) require a personal, external accompaniment, exactly as in 1 John 2:1 “we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ”, and obvious reference to Christ’s position at God’s right hand in fulfillment of Psalm 110:1.
Note that “Logos” (Jn. 1:1) and “Logos of Life” (1 John 1:1) was FIRST with God (in His presence, not in His person) and afterwards shown to the Apostles.
There is a consistent problem with the Socinian (Biblical) Unitarian explanations of all of the passages that prove preexistence. They cannot be harmonized together into a consistent whole. It is this severe lack of consistency which lies at the root of the problem, and why Socinian Unitarians cannot even agree with each other on the meaning of many passages, including whether John 1:1-3 and Col. 1:15-18 refers to the Genesis creation or to the “new creation” (neither of which can be harmonized with the grammar), the meaning of Phil. 2:5-10; Heb. 1:8-12, etc. They can often come up with an explanation of one particular problem verse, but it does not fit into the big picture so that the Bible is presenting a consistent picture. All of the problems that pop up when an alleged solution is presented to one problem, shows that Socinian theologians are playing “Whack-a Mole” with the Scriptures.
When you write, ” Note that “Logos” (Jn. 1:1) and “Logos of Life” (1 John 1:1) was FIRST with God (in His presence, not in His person) and afterwards shown to the Apostles.”, does “His” refer to the presence of “Logos” or that of God?James
The WORD was in God’s presence (with God) and afterward shown to the disciples.